The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Tier: High 1-A, likely 0. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. Pralaya is the Overvoid, according to you, and is named synonymously with the Source, who is a like being to the Presence, and is also called an aspect of the Presence by the author. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. 67% Upvoted. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Your assumptions are not evidence. Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? Snyder is using Kirby's version. The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. While The presence is the hand and the pen. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. Who wins? The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. 2,441 447. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. report. They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. It is the Primal Monitor. 11 comments. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. All of the evidence points to Presence-Source-Overvoid/Pralaya being a divine trinity. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. Save changes Preview Cancel. I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. More History; Done. At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. The Writer and The Presence are practically the same. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. Close. The Presence is The GOD. Not sure if the storyline is canon but i didnt see anthing saying it was not. This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. To add to this I have an actual last image. Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. All versions of supreme entities and abstracts like The Overvoid are apart of The Presence. But, I will vote for Tema2. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. Wikis. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. CatL18 . Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. 1; 2; Next. The Writer (self-insert of Grant Morrison) is the "supreme being" that writes and governs the whole thing. It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. 01:28, February 19, 2019. Tier: High 1-A. Why would we agree on something that there's no proof of? From the verse he is considered the god above all others. monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. You kinda dumb ngl. So,it is very difficult to compare. Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. zopzop. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. Next Last. Go. It certainly looks like they are above them. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! share. Prescense creates multiverses on it. I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. Are you typing in a hurry? And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. EmptyHand 4 mo 13 d . The Presence The Overmonitor is the canvas, The Presence is the writer. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. Lol. You can say that about every marvel fan ever. 40. It's a conscious unmanifest void. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even hide. Overvoid is, and never will be above The Presence. The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Follow 1820. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. That's how I have always seen it. Posted by 1 month ago. Soloed by batman ? Above both is the race called the Eonymous. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Do you even know what you are saying? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy, Honestly with the omnipotent statements, then verses would stalemate. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. Powers and Stats. Aren’t they the readers? I saw that when I searched them up. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. Empty Hand vs The Presence # Empty Hand When the moniter species did exist the preasence was debatable for being in the true overvoid via scaling above most of the species, but now that there dead and only overmoniter/moniter exists this means we cannot classify the preasence as beyond godsphere overvoid … Games Movies TV Video. The same goes with The Writer. Please click here if you are willing to help out. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. Still below that of the Dc writer. No. No, I was saying that all the things I said that are a part of the Presence are also a part of the writer. Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. How am I wanking dc? I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? Loading editor. Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. Aren't they pretty much the same being? xearesay. 40018621 7 mo 10 d . Definitely not a vs topic. It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the Endless. The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. It is the void outside every creation. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc Wait I just noticed you aren’t saying anything true just jokes, sorry. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. In Neil Gaimans cosmology. Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Snyder is not using Grant's version of the Source Wall, or anything else in the hierarchy. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. T2 easily. Basically my interpretation is that. It's a conscious unmanifest void. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. Sorry for the confusion. The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. Sounds false. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? I just dont recall if DC was ever clear on who is the end all-be all in DC. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. Don’t do it. And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. Which is to monitor the universes. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. 0 Kudos Antvasima. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . NOOOOO! If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? Or it … Overvoid > The Presence. I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. 10 months ago. Powers and Stats. In Morrrisons cosmology Prayala is God's Unconsciousness and When she says absorb she literally says shes just the deep sleep which even god falls into. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? 1 of 2 Go to page. It's just a huge unknowable thing. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. 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